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ptrautne
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|  Subject: Re: Axle Swap  Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:19 am | |
| | Rockn93YJ wrote: | This is a description of double shear, click through the next button:
http://www.ijee.dit.ie/OnlinePapers/Interactive/Philpot/bolted_double.htm
A comparison of single vs double shear, down a page on this link and see illustrations:
http://www.roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Screws/Bolted_Joint.html
There has been discussion on many forums about the use of heim joints for steering components and the big argument is "they can be dangerous for street driving if not mounted in the double-sheer format."
Here is a good description "hmmm,how to describe double sheer without a pic?
when the mounting bolt passes thru 1 piece of metal underneath the joint,it is in single shear. if the ball popped out of the joint,it could fall off.there is 1 "shear point" with the bolt passing thru 1 piece of metal since it is not being supported on the opposite end.
if the mounting bolt passes thru a piece of metal,the joint,then another piece of metal it is in double shear. there are 2 shear points since the bolt has mounting supports on either side of the joint. this method is stronger and less likely to bend/break the mounting bolts,and has the added benefit of holding the jiont captive between the mounting points if the joint were to stretch enuff that the ball could pop out.
suspension links like control arms and traction bars are typically mounted in a double shear fasion.
it is much harder to fab a double shear setup mounts for steering linkages due to the limited spaceo nt he knuckle,steering arm,or pitman arm.this is pretty much why my links are all single shear,it was prety much impossible to make them double shear.
what alot of people will do is run a big "last chance" safety washer on the non-supported end of the mouting bolt. this obviously doesnt add any strength,but it does work to hold the joint captive if it stretches enuff for the ball to pop out. i did not even have enuff for this,as the washers would rub the tires-i have a pretty minimal amt of clearance with the steering links in the stock locations on the knuckles.
one thing id like to do is replace my bolts with some kind of grade 9 or better aircraft quality titanium bolts" |
I don’t know why everyone says that the hiem needs to be in double shear to be safe on the street. A hiem joint is very similar in construction to a TRE. These are 3/4" hiems with a 5/8" bolt so it will just as strong or stronger then any TRE on a vehicle. |
|   | | rockdw72
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:06 pm | |
| | people say TRE are better for the street because they keep the mud and water out better, easily greaseable and don't make as much noise. but heims will perform better. IMHO |
| | | | mdcj7
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:12 pm | |
| Got all the welding done this weekend now everything should be bolt on
Here are the Ford shock towers
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| | | | mdcj7
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:52 pm | |
| getting closer to being done got the adapters for the CJ driveshafts to toyota flanges
Got the steering done just have to adjust the stops. All the brake pluming is done just waiting on a brake drum that I can bleed the brakes and maybe a test drive sometime next week.
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2006 LJ all stock 3:73 gear LS dana 44 rear 4.0 L 6speed trans |
| | | | makitupthehardway
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:50 pm | |
| Cool just in time for fall wheeling. I can't wait to see it.
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| | | | mdcj7
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:17 pm | |
| Well I though I was done but more work needs to be done.  here are some shots of some of the last things.
Picture of the finish
Well test drove it today  I'm not happy with the brakes cannot lock up the tires the jeep stops OK but I want to lock them up if needed. So I going to put in a Toyota brake boster and master cyl. to see if this helps. I also have the death wobble right now I do not have the stearing dampener on the jeep have to make up somthing that I can mount it.
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2006 LJ all stock 3:73 gear LS dana 44 rear 4.0 L 6speed trans |
| | | | Rockn93YJ
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:50 pm | |
| | What is the height of those shock mounts from eye to eye? And where did you get them? Looks nice. |
| | | | mdcj7
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:00 pm | |
| Bill they are a stock ford 3/4 ton truck shock tower I would have to get a mesurement for you. The part number is E5TZ18183A
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2006 LJ all stock 3:73 gear LS dana 44 rear 4.0 L 6speed trans |
| | | | mdcj7
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:15 pm | |
| Death wobble is gone replace the tires I bought with my tires and it went away. Still will install the Steering stablizer and it streetable again.
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2006 LJ all stock 3:73 gear LS dana 44 rear 4.0 L 6speed trans |
| | | | md4wheelin
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:28 pm | |
| after seeing it in person it looks real good. Can't wait to catch up with you on the trails and watch you give your jeep a good work out.
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| | | | makitupthehardway
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:43 pm | |
| Isn't it great to be able to street your jeep again. I took mine out tonight. I can't wait to see your rig out and in action.
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| | | | Allium
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:21 am | |
| | wow - a lot of work went into that |
| | | | The Devil Dog
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:07 pm | |
| Very nice job Paul, you've been pouring in the hours and hopefully your resolts will pay off on thee trials. You've been out for to long. Looks great. The rest of the Jeep needs cleaning just to match the diff you installed,hehehehe
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:36 pm | |
| Not Diff's Axles. 
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84 Toyota Pickup open/welded, 33's solid front axle and rusted frame
07 FORD E350 SD (TOW VAN)
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| | | | Rockn93YJ
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| | Subject: Re: Axle Swap Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:51 pm | |
| | Sweeeeet. |
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