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PostSubject: What could it be?   Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:49 pm

Alright now, I replaced the battery to the Wrangler last month with a new one from NAPA comproble to the Red top. The vehicle is draining the battery and I don't know from where. It doesn't keep the charge even after keeping it charging for several hour or day. I am thinking it couldbe the light bar on top, which I plan to replace because it really doesn't serve much of a purpose other than make the Jeep look cool.

The new tie rod is in and nowneeds alignment, I'm keeping the other one as a spare. With the spings that I bought from Joe, the Jeep is now much taller, hell I got tojumpintoit now,LOL
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:57 pm

worst case senerio, you could put a kill switch on the battery.
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:27 pm

md4wheelin wrote:
worst case senerio, you could put a kill switch on the battery.


Good idea for someone that has a rig that sits for long periods. Bad idea if you have a issue with your wiring. It could be a problem that can get worst as it goes on and then leave you stuck on the trails.

Tico ditch the light bar unless you really feel that your jeeps image is hurt by not having it or you really use that many lights. Go over everything in the TJ and check to see that everything turns off when your Keys are out. Make sure your getting a good charge while driving. Also I would test the battery. Charge it one night and leave it hooked up and see what happens. Then charge it again and leave it off. You might have a issue with your alternator not charging the battery.
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:12 am

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md4wheelin wrote:
You might have a issue with your alternator not charging the battery.


Alternator is what I was thinking as well. Some of the auto parts stores will test the alternator for free. I'd start there because without the alternator charging the battery it will go dead. Mine sits for months at a time without issues.
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:57 pm

There are two things you can test. By doing the following you should be able to find what is draining your battery.
1) Remove the neg cable and install a 12 v light between the cable and neg terminal if it lights you have somethings shorted. To find the short remove and replace your fuses one at a time until the light goes out. When it does that circuit has a short in it.
2) To check the alt yourself. With the Jeep running put a volt meter across the battery, you should see 13.5 - 14.5 volts. If you do not have a volt meter, with the Jeep running , take a screw driver and just touch the bearing on the back side. As it gets close you should feel a slight magnetic pull. If you don't feel the magnetic pull, remove the alt and have it tested.

Hope this helps.
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:15 pm

Great ideas by all, I though t it could be the Alternator doigna reverse charge. It wore out my red top that still hadd 2 years to go before replacement and the new one from NAPA. I thought of the regulator too. But I do think it's the overhead lights or the wiring of it. I will follow the advise provided here an see. Thank you guys.
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:53 pm

This is not directly related but I thought a killswitch should be placed on many rigs because if a rollover occurs and your keys magically fall out of the less than par jeep ignition and the damn thing keeps running you can cut it all with that big red battery cutoff switch for $15.
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:54 pm

jjjjjjjjjjj I have thought of putting one in because of that
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:51 am

yeah but Joe was talking about a battery kill.
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:30 am

Tico,
Take the jeep to B&W Electric on Harford rd across from Bowmans restaurant. They charge like $12 and will tell you exactly what it is.

I can check the alternator here but if you have a drain somewhere I tend to send everyone to them. They are fantastic to work with..

Dont spend the time guessing. Let the professional tell you exactly what it is. If it is the alternator dont let Adams put it on.. I will get you one for cost and its a 30 minute job if that..
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:30 pm

hmmm roll over with the key falling out, were have I seen that before scratch

Cant remember, but anyway I was refering to the switch on the battery. The only prob with cutting that off in a roll over is if you have a good alt. the damn thing will keep running without the battery hooked up. What would you wire the engine cut off to for instant cut off and security?

Also finding the problem yourself is the fun part, that and you always find other stuff that needs fixed in the process that you would of missed otherwise.
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:11 pm

There should be a ignition relay on the jeep somewhere that when you unplug it turns off. Once you find that you can install a emergency kill switch.
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:18 pm

Hey Tico did you figure out the problem?
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:20 am

For the time being, everything is on hold, my expensess over the next several months change my priorities. I am driving the Grand Cherokee on this months event and hope I don't screw it up. But, the Wrangler will wait until I can now get a newer rear drive shaft. Answer to the question is no, I have not taken the time to figure it out yet, I got the new battery and as far as I know she still kicks over.
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PostSubject: Re: What could it be?   Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:52 pm

Dont let the TJ sit for to long. Whats wrong with the driveshaft that you need a new one? Only thing that goes wrong with them is U-joints and the CV go bad. Even that can be rebuilt for less than it cost to get a new one.
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