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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:01 pm

Are you concerned about the chevy spring rate being too great? Great to hear you are able to finally tear into that thing. must have been your destiny to do this.

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:04 pm

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Are you concerned about the chevy spring rate being too great? Great to hear you are able to finally tear into that thing. must have been your destiny to do this.


You must have never gone thru the Toyota section on the pirate.

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:29 pm

More pictures of the work that we have done this week.

http://picasaweb.google.com/eyerks/Toyota02#

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:47 pm

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20665

this is the link for the chevy springs on Toyotas. Mainly running 63" springs that came on the late 80's early 90 trucks.

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:47 am

Hey guys I have been working on the Toy with Ryan for the last couple of weeks. We are almost ready to mount up the rear springs. I was thinking about stretching the wheel base cause thats what we do with Jeeps. I was checking with some tech write ups on the pirate and other sites and can't find out if the stretch is a good idea or not. The stock wheel base is 102". I do plan on moving the front axle 2" forward. So with out moving the rear I will be at 104". My question is should I even think about moving the rear back. The bed is gone and I only plan on having a tool box, propane tank and spare tire on the back. I'm thinking leave it close to stock location. Any input would be a great help. Thanks

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:55 pm

When Mike did Pats he used chevy springs on back and rear toy springs on front, Mike did say it was a pain in the ass But it seems to flex good. I will give you one suggestion put as little money in it as poss that makes it a ton of fun cuz you dont care about it. lol!

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:56 pm

the wheel base depends on what its going to be doing. Ie rock crawling and hill climbs longer is better. If your going to be doing mostly east coast trail riding smaller is better due to the tight turns and trees.

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:26 pm

102 should be fine for an all purpose trail vehicle regardless of toy or jeep.

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:27 pm

jealos-z wrote:
When Mike did Pats he used chevy springs on back and rear toy springs on front, Mike did say it was a pain in the ass But it seems to flex good. I will give you one suggestion put as little money in it as poss that makes it a ton of fun cuz you dont care about it. lol!


Everything I have listed still has the budget so far under 1000 bucks.

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:31 pm

Rockn93YJ wrote:
102 should be fine for an all purpose trail vehicle regardless of toy or jeep.


I was thinking the same but once I put the rear springs up front I will have 104" which should set me stright for the 1 ton running gear that I want to put under it.

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:07 pm

104 will be the final number. Its a 102 at the moment till I move the front axle forward 2". I went a little long cause I'm thinking about going with 60 front and 14bolt rear once I get the doubler 2.8:1/4.7:1 transfer case done.

Oh yeah the propane is hooked up and running. Runs better on propane than it did with gas and the carb.

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:53 pm

are you going full hydro steering? if not how is the clearance of the tie rod with the pitman arm?

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:38 am

I'm installing a steering box out of a 88 4 runner which will mount to a mounting plate that I'm going to either buy from marlin, trailgear or fab myself. When you use the stock toyota rear springs in the front it moves the font axle 2" forward and the steering box then has to be moved forward to line up with the steering hardware. Most guys end up having to cut away part of the radiator support when doing this. I have done a ton of research and aside from the high steer hardware, IFS box mount and the power steering cooler. I already have the power steering pump, IFS box, resivor, pump mounting bracket and hoses from a 88 4 runner that I have had sitting in a box for a year waiting for my lazy ass to get moving. This next step will be slow because I want to rebuild the front axle with all new seals bearings and brakes. At the moment the plan is to rebuild to prep for the 30 spline longfields and a locker (maybe something selectable). But I have been thinking of selling the toyota axles to John for his Sami and getting a set of chevy 60's. either way the project is really starting to shape up and I'm just happy to see progress in my little 1 car garage. Pictures will be up soon.

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:52 am

Found a GREAT deal on a set of D60 axles. Just in case you are interested.
http://www.marylandcreepers.com/MCForums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=45788

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PostSubject: Re: "The Darkside Project" (TDP)   Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:16 pm

I'm going to stick with the Toy axles for the next year or two. I'm not sure what the next phase will bring. I might cut it all up and use the parts and drivetrain in a moon buggy.

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