what is this?

Subject: what is this? Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:27 am

is this a front and rear line brake controller?
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Subject: Re: what is this? Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:43 pm

cnc brakes. its so you can do a front dig and lock up either rear tire to turn the jeep.

Subject: Re: what is this? Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:11 pm

Its main use is for front digs to help with direction. They are called cutting brakes. The left lever controls just the left rear disc or drum and allows you to lock the rear left wheel and then disingage the rear axle. Then you would turn the wheel left and the rig with cut to the left with the left rear tire holding it in place. The same works for the right hand lever. When doing a front dig it helps to only have to lock one wheel to hold postion and gain more movement by not having to hold the brake for all the wheels and have to power thru all of them
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Subject: Re: what is this? Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:58 pm

got ya, so I guess this would only work well if you were open or had a locker in the back instead of a spool or being welded do to the fact of one rear tire having to spin while the other stays put.

Also I saw this which makes it a little easyer to understand how it works

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Subject: Re: what is this? Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:51 pm

you can have a full locker in the back but must be able to disengage the rear axle and just drive with the front. the cutting brakes tie into the hydraulic brake lines. So the line comes in from the master cyl and into the cutting brakes. then two lines go out, one to each side of the rear axle. Effectively you can pull the brake on either side of the rear axle or leave the cutting brake handles alone and they function like normal brakes. I think they cost just over a hundred bucks or so but not sure.

Subject: Re: what is this? Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:54 pm

CNC Series 452 Cutting Brakes Dual Handle
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SERIES 452A Angle Handle Cutting Brake
SERIES 452S Straight Handle Cutting Brake
Total-seal rubber boots.
Available in 5/8" and 3/4" bore sizes.
Blue, red or gold anodized aluminum knobs.
Chrome handles.
5/8" for drum brakes. 3/4" or 7/8" for disc brakes.

Sku List:

CNC452AB34 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-3/4" Angled Blue-Disc Brake | 3/4" | Blue | CNC Price: $107
CNC452AB58 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-5/8" Angled Blue Drum Brake | 5/8" | Blue | CNC Price: $107
CNC452AB78 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-7/8" Angled Blue Disc Brake | 7/8" | Blue | CNC Price: $107
CNC452AG34 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-3/4" Angled, Gold, Disc Brake | 3/4" | Gold | CNC Price: $107
CNC452AG58 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-5/8" Angled Gold Drum Brake | 5/8" | Gold | CNC Price: $107
CNC452AG78 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-7/8" Angled Gold Disc Brake | 7/8" | Gold | CNC Price: $107
CNC452AR34 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-3/4" Angled, Red, Disc Brake | 3/4" | Red | CNC Price: $107
CNC452AR58 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-5/8" Angled Red Drum Brake | 5/8" | Red | CNC Price: $107
CNC452AR78 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-7/8" Angled Red Disc Brake | 7/8" | Red | CNC Price: $107
CNC452SB34 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-3/4" Straight Blue Disc Brake | 3/4" | Blue | CNC Price: $107
CNC452SB58 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-5/8" Straight Blue Drum Brake | 3/4" | Blue | CNC Price: $107
CNC452SB78 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-7/8" Straight Blue Disc Brake | 7/8" | Blue | CNC Price: $107
CNC452SG34 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-3/4" Straight Gold Disc Brake | 3/4" | Gold | CNC Price: $107
CNC452SG58 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-5/8" Straight Gold Drum Brake | 5/8" | Gold | CNC Price: $107
CNC452SG78 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-7/8" Straight Gold Disc Brake | 7/8" | Gold | CNC Price: $107
CNC452SR34 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-3/4" Straight Red Disc Brake | 3/4" | Red | CNC Price: $107
CNC452SR58 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-5/8" Straight Red Drum Brake | 5/8" | Red | CNC Price: $107
CNC452SR78 CNC Dual Handle Cutting Brake-7/8" Straight Red Disc Brake | 7/8" | Red | CNC Price: $107

Subject: Re: what is this? Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:59 pm

if you have a spool it won't work.

Subject: Re: what is this? Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:37 pm

it would mean you would also have to have an atlas ii or something similar to engage/disengage the axles independently correct?

something a bit beyond my DD at this point... but it looks cool to play with... :-)
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Subject: Re: what is this? Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:54 am

yes full locker but no spool. yes tony twin stick T-case is needed
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Subject: Re: what is this? Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:01 am

Hmmm I like this, should work well with the 231/300 combo, seeing that you can twin stick the 300.
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Subject: Re: what is this? Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:17 pm

it will make it easier for a larger jeep like a crappy zj jjjjjjjjjjj

get though tighter trails with out getting out the saw2

Subject: Re: what is this? Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:43 pm

Yeah I would say that would be a be help for you Joe. When I swap the drums to Discs in the rear of the Truggy I'm going to set up cutting brakes.
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94YJ locker/spool, lifted 37" MTR's lots of cool stuff (Trail rig)
00WJ open/open, lifted 31" MTR's (curbcrawler)
84 Toyota Pickup open/welded, 33's solid front axle and rusted frame
07 FORD E350 SD (TOW VAN)

KARNAGE MOTORSPORTS INC.

Subject: Re: what is this? Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:46 pm

Subject: Re: what is this? Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:43 pm

they have one and two lever models. would never work well as a parking brake because the levers don't lock in position. also being hydraulic it could leak down and loose braking ability if used as a parking brake. I don't think they recommend it either.

Subject: Re: what is this? Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:49 pm