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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Sun May 16, 2010 11:14 am

second thought...may weld the tube on with enough room to clear the diff parts and bolt the mounting plate down to the tube.
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Sun May 16, 2010 9:34 pm

YJ tilt steering installed.


Doubler shifter cover mount


Steering shaft tabs were removed for mounting purposes.


Ram mock up


Ram mount side view


Ram mount front view



Orbital mount fabricated


will probably mount it here.


Almost time for another bonfire party

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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Sun May 16, 2010 11:32 pm

taking out that fence really opened things up. I'm not really a fan of the bolt though the tube. looks like the bolt could get hung up on rocks. you could thread a small piece of dom and weld it in. something like this but grind it smooth. It might be alittle stronger too.
http://www.summitmachine.com/store/index.php/chassis-components/seat-belt-bungs/index.html

other then that looking good. sorry I couldn't help this weekend

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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Sun May 16, 2010 11:56 pm

Plan is to use a smaller bolt that is just long enough to get a nut on it and feed it in from the bottom. The ones in it now are just for locating purposes.
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Mon May 17, 2010 2:28 pm

window nets - need to measure for mounting hardware
TUBING hood rail supports need to install coilovers first (still waiting for delivery TODAY?
STEERING - install orbital, shaft and hoses
WINCH MOUNT -just needs welded
AXLE WINCH - p.u. tomorrow
Front grill - need to weld together once winch is in place. going to fit grill around winch.
FIREWALL- rear lower 18 ga. fix floor holes, fix front firewall holes, lexan radiator shield, angle iron for lexan sides.
Build FUEL CELL mount AND built bolt on cover. Rubber Isolated
DRIVESHAFTS: will require 2 piece shaft. ordered carrier bearing 5/17
EXHAUST: ordered stock exhaust manifolds 5/17

OIL PAN SKID
WEIGH VEHICLE, order COILS
Install tranny dipstick and ATF lines
Install radiator and tranny cooler. Run new hoses
fire extinguisher mount
HEADRESTS
ROOF, 1/8" aluminum
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BRAKES, lines and new flex lines.(measure)
EMERGENCY BRAKE, caddy calipers -received caddy calipers, need to buy a e-brake handle
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LIMITING STRAPS, BUMP STOPS
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Thu May 20, 2010 10:46 am

got my coilovers, axle winch, winch ropes, and stock exhaust manifolds in.
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Sun May 23, 2010 9:44 am

Saturday was a very productive day. Not because I got a lot done but because Matt did. I had the yard crew working 6 a.m. til 5 p.m. and had to run back and forth a LOT. Matt kept diligently working on the CJ without complaint or hesitation. I truly appreciate that Matt and hope I can return the favor one day. That being said the coilovers are installed and the CJ is no longer on jack stands! I do have clearance issues with the rear. At full drop with the other side flexed the shock hits the frame and the other side hits the tire. Only by about 1/2" on both sides but enough that the mounts had to be changed. We moved the mounts out on top and bottom to keep the angle(Matts Idea) and I'll be getting some new rear rims. the Walker Evans wheels have about 5 1/4" of backspacing. I'll order two for the rear with about 3 1/4" of backspacing and all should be good. Stance is really low now that it is off the wheel dollys and jack stands. I can rest my elbow on the upper door bar standing next to it. Pics to come later.
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Sun May 23, 2010 5:36 pm

sounds nice! can't wait to see it in person 9

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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Mon May 24, 2010 12:30 am

Got some numbers!

Front total weight = 2750 Unsprung weight =700 Corner sprung weight = 675 Shock angle 18 deg.
Rear total weight = 2200 Unsprung weight =400 Corner sprung weight = 700 Shock angle 12 deg.

Main springs will be 18" 300# coils front and rear
Tender springs will be 14" 200# coils front and rear

TOTAL VEHICLE WEIGHT 4,950 not including fuel, passengers, body panels, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:56 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:57 pm

that pic doesnt do the cj any justice! it looks way better in person!!! hurry up and get that fairlead on there so i can say i did something for it Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:13 pm

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that pic doesnt do the cj any justice! it looks way better in person!!! hurry up and get that fairlead on there so i can say i did something for it Very Happy

This is true. Its been a blast to see this thing transform. I can't wait to see it perform (I will end up having to work or something that day that you race it)

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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:40 pm

make sure you post when the races are for your VIRGIN run mbn

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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:56 pm

window nets - need to measure for mounting hardware
TUBING hood rail supports need to install coilovers first (still waiting for delivery TODAY?
STEERING - install orbital, shaft and hoses
WINCH MOUNT -just needs welded
AXLE WINCH - p.u. tomorrow
Front grill - need to weld together once winch is in place. going to fit grill around winch.
FIREWALL- rear lower 18 ga. fix floor holes, fix front firewall holes, lexan radiator shield, angle iron for lexan sides.
Build FUEL CELL mount AND built bolt on cover. Rubber Isolated
DRIVESHAFTS: will require 2 piece shaft. ordered carrier bearing 5/17
EXHAUST: ordered stock exhaust manifolds 5/17

OIL PAN SKID
WEIGH VEHICLE, order COILS
Install tranny dipstick and ATF lines
Install radiator and tranny cooler. Run new hoses
fire extinguisher mount
HEADRESTS
ROOF, 1/8" aluminum
Mount BATTERY
BRAKES, lines and new flex lines.(measure)
EMERGENCY BRAKE, caddy calipers -received caddy calipers, need to buy a e-brake handle
BODY PANELS
LIMITING STRAPS, BUMP STOPS
ARB pump install, wiring
CUTOFF switch
PAINT Panels and cage
Headlights, taillights
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HORN
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:20 am

sometimes the best part of the build is watching that to do list get smaller.

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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:28 am

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sometimes the best part of the build is watching that to do list get smaller.

agreed. It is so satisfying to cross things off the list without having to add 3 more along the way.
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:57 am

Got some work done Thursday. Finished welding the final piece of cage, front hood rail support area. welded on some grill mounts and hydraulic cyl mount. Welded in the framework for the fuel cell. Installed new high steer arms from Ballistic Fab. They have the adjuster nut instead of the spring and took out all the free play. I need 2 new heim joints for the high steer arms, mine have 5/8" hole and I need the 3/4" hole. Assembled and installed the hydraulic hoses for the steering. Still needs routing issues resolved. Measured for limiting straps and brake lines. Measured for driveshafts. Measured for all thread for the fuel cell mounts. Good day.
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:42 am

this weekend was not that productive. Flexed teh suspension out and found that the front coils were hitting the tires and high steer arms at full stuff. Relocated the mounts 1 1/4" in and 1 1/2" back on top and the lower mount was moved inward 1/4". everything clears now except at full stuff the tire fully turned will spin the coil spring.
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:14 am

That sucks I thought we had the front pretty good. So the rear was ok with the new rims?

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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:25 am

still have to check the rear. I forgot to take the coils out before I jacked it up. Going to check that tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:33 am

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That sucks I thought we had the front pretty good. So the rear was ok with the new rims?

We didn't check with wheels fully turned. high steer arm contacted the lower retainer. Fixed the pinion angle and that helped but still would contact.
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:41 pm

When I hoisted the tire up at first the front axle was twisting funny and not doing what my scale model was doing. I dropped it back level and discovered that the pinion angle was off about 12 degrees up. I reset the pinion angle and flexed it out again and all worked well and pinion angle stayed on line.
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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:54 pm

I ended up having to move my co mounts 3 time before I got it right. Why was the pinion rotating upwards?

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PostSubject: Re: Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!   Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:16 pm

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I ended up having to move my co mounts 3 time before I got it right. Why was the pinion rotating upwards?

Yes. Pinion was rotating upwards and twisting hard towards the drivers side. Adjustments in the control arms solved the problem, had to really shorten the uppers so the pinion would level out at ride height. took awhile to figure out how the pinion was rotation up.
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