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PostSubject: vons new buggy build   Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:13 pm

well here we go again, i have the rockwell axles to put under the 4 seater frame i bought.......here are some pics of what i have and done so far
http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g262/vonbierman/rockwell%20buggy%20and%20frame%20work/

SEPARATED THE CARRIERS AND TACK WELDED THE SPIDERS WHILE THEY WERE IN THE CARRIER HALF...
THEN I PULLED THEM OUT AND WELDED IT UP ALL THE WAY WITH SOME HIGH STRENGTH ROD

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:45 pm

good to see you are jumping right into it so is it gonna be ready for the next big dogs Smile
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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:22 pm

i am not sure if it will be ready or not.....
i have the engine setting in the new frame now.....
here are the engine mounts i made

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:04 pm

i have the front axle just about done

i flipped the hubs for a decreased wms of 10 inches from stock
was not hard to do , i just read alot for the info i needed 9


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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:13 pm

please tell me that's just the primer lol!

keep plugging along, one axle down 1 more to go.

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:29 am

WHAT!! red trim is in this year....get with the times jocolor

IT'S BETTER THAN PINK WITH FLOWERS! 9 lol!

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:51 pm

thinga'ma'rig wrote:
WHAT!! red trim is in this year....get with the times jocolor

IT'S BETTER THAN PINK WITH FLOWERS! 9 lol!

Hey Von all you have to do is paint the rest of the rig black. Then you and Kathy will have matching rigs.

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:44 pm

Are you gonna have a work party? Lots to do before big dogs.
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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:28 pm

i might, but at this point i am planning on riding with jon at the dogs.
i would like to get both the axles done b-4 a work party,
that way we can get them in place at the party with everyones help... they are heavy
here is a video of the old frame
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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:42 pm

Watching in person was funnier than the video. lol!

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:54 pm

smash it into a ball and take it to recycling. $$$
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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:56 pm

thats the plan!
here is my top plate for the rockwell chunk i made and installed mbn



3/8 inch plate steel.....and i drilled all the holes........NO TORCH ON THIS ONE cheers

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:59 pm

Please tell me your using to materials for the control arms this time. You methods before have not worked the best in holding up to the beating they where given.

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:49 am

scratch
i was using my old control arms on the front (but this time it will be a tri- 4 link)

i am making new arms for the back with new joints (running a tri 4 link also in the rear)

NO 1 - LINK!

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:23 pm

word to the wise, make your links as strong and out the thickest material with the biggest joints you can get. i have run rockwells for just over 7 years now (this is my third vehicle i built using them) and until i ran big heavy material and joints i broke stuff like it was my job.

cheaping out on this stuff when running a heavy axle will only come back to bite you in the butt later, ask me how i know

good luck

if you need or want advice please let me know. like i said i have done this a few times using several different suspension designs over the years
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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:56 pm

did you also grab all those joints from shane when you grabbed the axles and frame?

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:56 am

no, shane's joints did not look that good to me, the flex on the joint was terrible, only about 1/2 of a johnny joint in my opinion B-4 THEY BOTTOMED OUT ON THE MOUNTING TABS........i have the jonny joints in the front from my other buggy. and for the back i have large heim joints with misalignment spacers to use with a 5/8 bolt , if i do break anything, then i will upgrade later....but everything seems pretty good right now...........thanks for the nice info, i will ask if i run into problem or have a question cheers
............................THE IDEA IS TO HAVE IT OUT FOR THE APRIL BIG DOGS RUN......................................WE WILL SEE.

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:33 pm

here are a couple more pics......it is just about time to start the rear axle
if you look at it from the front the tip of the hub sticks out about 1 inch past the sidewall...this setup puts me at around 84 inches wide on the axle......
i am thinking of changing where i weld in the centers to give me about a 89 inch total width.......ANYBODY HAVE OPINIONS ON THIS, TOO WIDE? OR WHAT
REMEMBER I WILL HAVE A 120 INCHES LONG WHEELBASE WITH REAR STEER...........

inside pics.....going to be nice having everything at my fingertips (no more reaching for the shifter, etc.)



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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:37 pm

Where is my cup holder? That is the MOST important thing you know. lol! jocolor

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:24 am

cup holders are in the plans 9

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:03 am


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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:04 am

for the life of me i can't remember how wide i am currently???? but 89" doesn't seem to wide, i am runnign rear steer as well and with 44 rockers, flipped hibs and 4" back spacing 114" wheel base my set up flat out works and i have nver had an issue of being "to wide"

i will measure how wide i am later and get back to you, i need to measure anyway cause i want an enclosed trailer

looks good so far, well everything but the bogger tires lol!
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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:22 pm

YJ is 83" wide with 99" wheelbase. CJ is about 86" wide with 117" wheelbase with 40" tires. these measures are from outside of tire to outside of tire. DIdnt' have to measure becuase my trailer is 83" wide and I know how much they run over the fenders. CJ would be a pain to wheel without rear steer and with a rear spool.
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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:47 pm

thanks for all the input.....

i tried to sell my 38.5 boggers, but i did not get anyone to bite on them for 600.00.....
so with money is the way it is i am forced to use them. (i really wanted to get the 42 inch rockers)

........THATS THE WAY IT GOES I GUESS......FOR NOW!


...HOW DO YOU LIKE THE 44 ROCKERS?...

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PostSubject: Re: vons new buggy build   Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:18 pm

rockers work well, are they the best tire i have ever run? ???? well i guess they are pretty good, i like 47" ltbs' as well. i would actually like to run stickies but then again my rig is so heavy i would chew them up fast



you will def want a bigger tire when it all comes down to it. the ground clearance under a rock is actually very good after a mohawk (which i know you already have) but 38" boggers only measure like 36" tall or something like that?
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