Phase 2 Mud sucks, I'm going racing!

Mud bandit was fun, not something I want to run all day with the stiff suspension and having to ride the brakes all day. SO, phase 2 will be to transform from Mud bogger to rock racer. It will not be done for November, no chance in hell. so next spring for Rausch races, then line mountain races, and the one in North carolina.
Phase 2 JUGGY:

1. Replace transmission with reverse pattern TH400, engine braking, full manual control and 2.75 first.
2. Replace transfer case with 203-205 doubler.
3. Change suspension to link style suspension with coilover shocks front and rear.
4. Tube back half and front end of CJ retaining just the cab.
5. Stretch wheelbase to 110-115"
6. Convert to full hydraulic steerring (already have the PSC kit).
7. Modify to be in full compliance with rules of racing: covered fuel cell, metal firewalls and roof etc etc.
8. 7" of uptravel, air bumps
9. keep radiator in rear, narrow rear to clear tires with artic, lower hood for visibility.
10. 1410 u-joints with with heavy wall dom tubing, chromoly yokes, heavy dom shafts balanced

in 1:1 crawl ratio is 14
in 2:1 crawl ratio is 28:1 (not counting the torque converter)
in 4:1 crawl ratio is 56:1

Top speed in 1:1 is calc at 128 mph
Top speed in 2:1 is about 64 mph
Top speed in 4:1 is about 31 mph

Idea is to stay in 2:1 unless i need the 4:1 for some obstacles and may need 1:1 for some longer open stretches.

Looks like a solid plan. I like the idea of cutting off the back of the tub and frame. Leave the front till the rear is done.

Hey Bill, what are line mountain races? sounds like fun.

Line Mountain 7 miler I have herd horror stories

line mountian races are races about 30 miles west of Rausch creek. 16 miles, 3 loops or so with green/blue trail style races for time. last event a couple weeks ago they had 120 or so rigs racing

sounds assume (awesome) duh. thanks for the correction

are 60's going to hold up to 44's and rock racing. thats a heavy tire. a lot of the racing guys are running 4.3s or 3.8s atlas with autos, or even higher ratio.

Sign me up for shotgun

Most of the guys running the 7miler are running little tires its more hill climbs & obstacles i think you would not be happy with that race

I watched the videos and there are some that run 2wd buggies in there. lots do not complete the course due to breakage from trying to go fast and hitting a hole or rock too fast etc. It would be fun to run but not my primary objective. I want the rock races at rausch and NC and line mountain just gives me something else to do with it. For ratio's I'm thinking either atlas 5:1 or perhaps a Stak case with 5.3:1, 3.8:1 and 1:1 not sure yet. Tires are really heavy, might end up selling them for a different tire but i'll have to compare weights/prices etc. also thought about just cutting all the little lugs off to shave some weight.

my goal is to do the RC races if the S-10 sells if not the finances won't be there to do it. the stak case definatly offers more ratio i believe there very large & heavey the only downfall. would definalty want coilovers with big resevoirs for cooling i think a little smaller tire would be a good idea & a heavey sidewall

yeah stak is like 150# so very heavy, atlas is like 100? or so.

Is there a web site for the races or a name for the area where they take place?

sounds like a place where my lead foot my actually be a good thing....

Kim Matzen wrote:

Is there a web site for the races or a name for the area where they take place?

line mountain races

called TCI for some tech advice with the tranny, stayed on hold 15 minutes and gave up.

damn bill, sounds like a good idea. ill be seeing you up there because im doing the rc races as well and hopefully the line mtn. next year.

that shit sounds like pure fun

watched some of the run on Utube. what an absolute blast... do you think I can do that in my jeep or does it need a bunch of modifications to gears or suspension? Seems like it could go the way it is. Can you go up there and run the trail before a competition?

Kim Matzen wrote:

watched some of the run on Utube. what an absolute blast... do you think I can do that in my jeep or does it need a bunch of modifications to gears or suspension? Seems like it could go the way it is. Can you go up there and run the trail before a competition?

Not sure exactly. they do have some safety requirements listed somewhere on there. I printed them but didnt' have a chance to read it yet.

I printed out the specs, need a helmet and additional safety bars, no glass in the windows. Doesn't look like that much. thanks.

looks like a blast so I look forward to flying through the woods. Should work well with your go fast itchy foot.

Hey Matt, who makes the safety belt you installed? anyone know where you can get stock car netting?

mine are made by Crow. There are bunch of good companies out there. check out summittracing.com

Kim Matzen wrote:

Hey Matt, who makes the safety belt you installed? anyone know where you can get stock car netting?

window nets at jegs